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[Up yours Alvin Bragg...] Daniel Penny not guilty in NYC subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2024-12-09 20:23:42 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train — bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.

The verdict came after Justice Maxwell Wiley on Friday dismissed the top
charge of manslaughter at prosecutors’ request after jurors said they
couldn’t unanimously agree on it. That allowed the panel to consider the
lesser charge, carrying a maximum of four years in prison, as opposed to
15.

In a phone call with the Daily News, Penny’s lawyer, Thomas Kenniff, said
his client was “elated.”

“Justice has finally been served, and Danny has gotten the acquittal that
he knew was coming the last 18 months,” Kenniff said, adding Penny was
“elated” to “finally not to be living under the weight of false
accusations and having his honor diminished by this misguided indictment.”

Protesters outside the court who’d been calling for Penny’s conviction
could be heard from the 13th-floor courtroom shouting, “No justice! No
peace!”

Neely’s father, Andre Zachery, addressed the media surrounded by family
members, leaders of the New York chapter of the Black Lives Matter
movement, and Gwen Carr, the mother of slain Staten Island man Eric
Garner, who was killed in a department-banned police chokehold in 2014.

“It hurts. It really, really hurts. What are we gonna do, people? What’s
gonna happen to us now?” Zachery said. “Come on, people. Let’s do
something about this.”

The Rev. Al Sharpton, who heads the National Action Network, issued a
statement condemning the verdict.

“Jordan Neely’s life was brutally taken away because of unnecessary
vigilantism,” Sharpton said. “This kind of behavior was inexcusable 40
years ago when Bernhard Goetz opened fire in a subway car, and it remained
the case more than a year ago when Daniel Penny took Jordan’s life. Jordan
was in the middle of a mental health crisis, but instead of being offered
a helping hand, he got an arm around his neck.”

The Manhattan Supreme Court jury of seven women and five men got the case
on Tuesday and made several requests during deliberations. They asked to
review testimony from the city medical examiner who performed Neely’s
autopsy, review footage of the encounter and its aftermath, and rehear
various legal definitions.

The prosecution portrayed Penny as someone who may have initially acted
with good intent when Neely got on the F train he was riding, acting
menacingly toward those onboard. But they argued he crossed the line into
criminality by holding onto Neely for far too long until he’d choked the
life out of him.

Penny’s defense painted him as a good Samaritan being punished for trying
to help his fellow New Yorkers in a frightening moment. They sought to
convince jurors that the chokehold didn’t kill Neely but rather that his
poor mental and physical health caused his death.

The case garnered national attention after footage of the chokehold
incident went viral. In the early days of the presidential primary
campaign season, Penny became a right-wing cause célèbre, pulling in
millions of dollars toward his legal defense and words of support from GOP
candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The nearly two-week delay between Neely’s death and Penny’s arrest saw
civil rights protesters take to the city’s streets and subway tracks to
protest the unaccounted-for killing of a poor and unarmed Black man in
public. Rev. Al Sharpton delivered the eulogy at Neely’s funeral, telling
mourners, “A boy on a train is screaming for help, and somebody comes up
from behind and claims self-defense.”

Zachery, Neely’s father, filed a civil suit against Penny during
deliberations last week. His attorney, Donte Mills, said they would
continue to seek accountability for the chokehold in civil court.

“If we see someone asking for food, we have to take the responsibility to
give it to them. If we see someone cold — to give them a coat. If we see
someone going through something, ask them if they’re okay. That’s how we
help each other,” Mills said, reacting to the verdict. “Because we can’t
rely on the system to do it for us.”

Penny, 26, of Suffolk County, L.I., served for four years in the Marines
and was studying architecture and working as a barback in Brooklyn at the
time of the incident.

Neely, 30, who was homeless and experiencing untreated mental illness and
drug addiction, grew up in New York and New Jersey. His mother was
brutally murdered when he was 14, which his family has said derailed him.
When he was stable, he found joy in dancing to Michael Jackson’s music for
New Yorkers.

The lives of the two men, both standing at 6 feet and 1 inch tall,
collided at around 2:25 p.m. on the afternoon of Monday, May 1, 2023.

Penny boarded the train in Brooklyn and was going to the gym near the
Flatiron building. Neely got on at the Second Ave. station, threw down his
jacket, and began screaming shortly after the doors closed.

Eight passengers who testified at the trial said Neely said something to
the effect of being ready to die and go back to jail, alarming them. Three
said he used the words “kill” or “die,” in reference to himself or others.

A young mother who was on the train with her son did not recall Neely
descending on them and saying, “I will kill,” as the defense stated at the
start of the trial. Nobody testified that he put his hands on anyone or
directed his threats at someone specific.

Penny quickly intervened, wrapping his arm around Neely’s neck and taking
him down to the floor from behind, according to his defense and witness
testimony. Within around 30 seconds, the train reached the next stop,
Broadway-Lafayette, where the two men remained in a struggle on the floor,
and passengers fled to the platform.

Prosecutors argued Penny’s actions became criminal at that point when he
continued to subdue Neely in a chokehold for almost six minutes until
Neely passed out, never to regain consciousness.

Two men aided Penny – Eric Gonzalez, 39, a room manager at a casino, who
had been waiting on the platform when the train pulled into the station,
and a man from Germany, who was on the train and refused to cooperate with
either side or return to the U.S. to testify.

In a nearly five-minute video shot by independent journalist Juan Alberto
Vasquez, which catapulted the incident into the national spotlight, Penny
is seen with his arm gripped around Neely’s neck and his legs wrapped
around his body on the stalled train.

Neely raises his left arm, and Gonzalez holds it down. Neely then raises
his right arm and taps the leg of the German tourist, appearing to motion
for help. The tourist then holds down Neely’s right arm. Gonzalez begins
holding down both of Neely’s arms, the tourist now holding his shoulder,
and Neely begins to squirm with greater effort as Penny tightens his grip
around his neck.

In his testimony, Penny’s former martial arts trainer in the Marines,
Joseph Caballer, said he had appeared to apply the chokehold technique
he’d been taught incorrectly.

The situation intensifies, and the men roll over. Neely starts kicking his
legs to break free. About three minutes into the video, Neely stops
moving.

Witness Larry Goodson, 61, is then heard telling the men they should let
go. Gonzalez insists Penny is “not squeezing no more.”

“You gotta let him go. My wife is ex-military. You going to kill him now,”
Goodson says in the video, warning that if Neely defecated himself,
“that’s it.”

Within a few seconds, Penny and Gonzalez let up. Neely’s body is limp.

Police and medics soon arrived, failed to revive Neely, and brought him to
Lenox Hill Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. On police-worn camera
footage, Penny is seen telling officers at the scene he “just put him
out.” Later, he willingly sat for questioning with detectives at the Fifth
Precinct stationhouse.

“I was on my phone like listening to music. I wasn’t paying attention. He
was just a crackhead; you know what I mean?” Penny told the cops about
Neely getting on the train. “I felt the need that to, you know, step in
because there’s women, children on the, on the train. I’m sure you’ll,
there’s ladies there that, that’ll vouch for me.”

When he testified on Nov. 12, Gonzalez said he told Penny during the
altercation that he could let go of Neely’s neck but that Penny did not.
Gonzalez also admitted that he initially lied to authorities – claiming
he’d been on the train the whole time and that Neely assaulted him and was
breathing when he left the scene – out of fear he’d face charges.

The jury was asked to draw starkly different conclusions from the
evidence.

Penny’s lawyers challenged the New York City medical examiner’s
determination that Neely died as a result of the chokehold, proposing his
mental illness and drug issues could have been the root. They focused much
of their defense on arguing that his actions were justified.

“Jordan was on a collision course with himself. The consequences of Danny
failing to act may very well have been the trial of Jordan Neely for
hurting or killing someone on that train,” Steven Raiser said in his
summation.

“This case is about a broken system. A broken system that does not help
our mentally ill or our unhoused. In fact, it is that broken system that
led us, that is interwoven into the very fabric of this case.”

The prosecution, in turn, said passengers’ fear of Neely was valid but
that Penny did not need to use deadly physical force to address it – or
subdue the unarmed Neely once everyone was off the train.

“[The] law is very proscribed. It is very narrow, very precise to make
sure that people only use deadly physical force against each other when it
is absolutely necessary, and for as long as it is absolutely necessary,”
Assistant District Attorney Dafna Yoran said Monday.

“You obviously cannot kill someone because they are crazy and ranting and
looking menacing. No matter what it is that they are saying.”

This story will be updated.

Originally Published: December 9, 2024 at 11:33 AM EST
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Siri Cruise
2024-12-09 21:10:32 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train — bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
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max headroom
2024-12-10 16:02:39 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
Siri Cruise
2024-12-10 20:52:14 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
In your universe where people will obey what they feel is unjust.
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max headroom
2024-12-10 23:51:33 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
In your universe ...
Maybe in Swill's, but not mine.
Governor Swill
2024-12-10 21:59:59 UTC
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Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
This one:

"South Korea’s President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial law
chaos"
<https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828>

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max headroom
2024-12-10 23:13:40 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial
law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--

"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National Assembly
voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak on
Wednesday...."
Governor Swill
2024-12-13 03:11:35 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train - bringing
closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates about
vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial
law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National Assembly
voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak on
Wednesday...."
Exactly.
max headroom
2024-12-13 15:18:11 UTC
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Post by max headroom
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train -
bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial
law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak on
Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Siri Cruise
2024-12-13 20:58:18 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train -
bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial
law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak on
Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Are you saying popular uprisings can override 'legitimate' power?
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max headroom
2024-12-13 23:15:08 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:02:39 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train
- bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Are you saying popular uprisings can override 'legitimate' power?
Are you saying South Korea is still under martial law?

Are you saying the jury's acquittal of Penny was a popular uprising or a
legitimate power?
Siri Cruise
2024-12-14 01:31:51 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:02:39 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train
- bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Are you saying popular uprisings can override 'legitimate' power?
Are you saying South Korea is still under martial law?
Are you saying the jury's acquittal of Penny was a popular uprising or a
legitimate power?
And if the acquittal does provoke a popular uprising?

While you prance around in your sack dance, why are you surprised
some blacks express their intention of self-defence?

Tell us again there cannot possibly be a reaction to what you
declare is legitimate.
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max headroom
2024-12-14 05:48:33 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 15:13:40 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:02:39 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F
train - bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated
debates about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Are you saying popular uprisings can override 'legitimate' power?
Are you saying South Korea is still under martial law?
[crickets]
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by max headroom
Are you saying the jury's acquittal of Penny was a popular uprising or a
legitimate power?
And if the acquittal does provoke a popular uprising?
Would that be a popular uprising provoked by a popular uprising or a popular
uprising provoked by a legitimate power?
Post by Siri Cruise
While you prance around in your sack dance...
Pray tell, what is a "sack dance"?
Post by Siri Cruise
..., why are you surprised some blacks express their intention of
self-defence?
I heard no such intentions.
Post by Siri Cruise
Tell us again there cannot possibly be a reaction to what you
declare is legitimate.
I cannot repeat what I have not said.
Governor Swill
2024-12-13 21:05:05 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
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Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday
in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train -
bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after martial
law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak on
Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Perhaps that's because reality is often fluid and evolving. For example, the
*last* I had read about was the declaration of martial law. I had not yet read
about it's repeal.

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Governor Swill
2024-12-15 04:24:55 UTC
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Post by max headroom
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:02:39 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F train
- bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated debates
about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Perhaps that's because reality is often fluid and evolving. For example, the
*last* I had read about was the declaration of martial law. I had not yet
read about it's repeal.
Do you mean you hadn't read your own citation?
Not until I posted it, which is WHY I posted it. The situation had changed and
an update in my thinking was called for.

I'd rather change my mind and admit an error than stubbornly hold onto incorrect
information.

NP: Dan Fogelberg - Lost In The Sun
max headroom
2024-12-15 18:27:30 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 15:13:40 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:02:39 -0800, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F
train - bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated
debates about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Perhaps that's because reality is often fluid and evolving. For example,
the *last* I had read about was the declaration of martial law. I had not
yet read about it's repeal.
Do you mean you hadn't read your own citation?
Not until I posted it, which is WHY I posted it. The situation had changed
and an update in my thinking was called for.
I'd rather change my mind and admit an error than stubbornly hold onto
incorrect information.
This is your first admission of error. Some might think you were trying to bluff
your way through.
Governor Swill
2024-12-16 03:06:19 UTC
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Post by max headroom
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Post by max headroom
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
Daniel Penny was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide
Monday in the chokehold killing of Jordan Neely on a Manhattan F
train - bringing closure in the polarizing case that provoked heated
debates about vigilantism, mental illness and subway safety.
And South Korea is still under martial law.
In what universe?
"South Korea's President Yoon is banned from traveling abroad after
martial law chaos"
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-a196573506375f39d5645843bcf87828
From your source--
"Yoon's martial law decree lasted only six hours because the National
Assembly voted it down, forcing Yoon's Cabinet to lift it before daybreak
on Wednesday...."
Exactly.
Siri's perception of reality is often fluid and evolving.
Perhaps that's because reality is often fluid and evolving. For example,
the *last* I had read about was the declaration of martial law. I had not
yet read about it's repeal.
Do you mean you hadn't read your own citation?
Not until I posted it, which is WHY I posted it. The situation had changed
and an update in my thinking was called for.
I'd rather change my mind and admit an error than stubbornly hold onto
incorrect information.
This is your first admission of error.
Far from that.
Post by max headroom
Some might think you were trying to bluff
your way through.
Not if they're aclually thinking.

NP: Mozart - Symphony No. 4 in D, K. 19: 3. Presto

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