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Judge says New York can't use 'antiquated, unconstitutional' law to block migrant buses from Texas
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useapen
2024-11-10 08:54:16 UTC
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NEW YORK (AP) — New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old “anti-pauper” law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.

The court on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit brought by Mayor Eric Adams
in January against charter bus companies contracted by Texas Gov. Greg
Abbott. It sought to bar them from knowingly dropping off “needy
persons,” citing an 1817 state law that criminalized bringing an
indigent person into the state “for the purpose of making him a public
charge.”

Justice Mary Rosado said in a sternly worded decision that the law is
unconstitutional for several reasons.

For one, she wrote, states are not permitted to regulate the interstate
transportation of people based on their economic status.

The statute also “violates a fundamental right — the right to travel,”
she added.

Rosado said requiring bus operators to screen passengers based on the
possibility that they may need public assistance when they get to their
destination would infringe on that fundamental right, and punishing the
bus companies for failing to keep poor people out of the city would be
improper.

The judge concluded by saying that if city officials want to do
something, they should turn to Congress rather than ask the court to
enforce “an antiquated, unconstitutional statute to infringe on an
individual's right to enter New York based on economic status.”

Starting in 2022, the state of Texas began offering migrants free bus
rides to cities with Democratic mayors. At least 46,000 were sent to
New York, 19,000 to Denver, 37,000 to Chicago and over 17,000 to other
cities, according to Abbott's office.

At the time, Adams, a Democrat, said the trips were illegal and
amounted to “political ploys from the state of Texas.”

It would have been difficult for New York City to sue Texas due to a
legal doctrine known as sovereign immunity, so it went after the
private charter companies instead.

Despite the court loss, the Adams administration said the lawsuit has
had its desired effect: Fewer charter buses brought immigrants to the
city after it was filed, and none have been identified since June,
according to a statement from his office. Adams has not given up on
further action, either.

“We are reviewing our legal options to address the costs shifted to New
York City as a result of the Texas busing scheme,” mayoral spokesperson
Liz Garcia said in a statement.

The New York Civil Liberties Union applauded the court's decision.

“Mayor Adams is not above the law and cannot keep wrongly exploiting
the plight of newly arrived immigrants to bolster his own political
agenda,” NYCLU senior staff lawyer Beth Haroules said. “Everyone,
regardless of their citizenship status or income, has the right to
freely travel and reside anywhere within the United States.”

Abbot said during one visit to New York City that Adams was right to be
upset about the surge in migrants but should be blaming President Joe
Biden.

Adams ultimately did criticize the federal government, saying it had an
obligation to help the city pay for housing and providing services to
migrants.

New York has long provided shelter to more homeless people than any
other U.S. city, in part because of a 1981 court ruling requiring it to
shelter anyone who asks for it. City officials say they have provided
shelter and other services to more than 200,000 immigrants in the past
two years, only a fraction of whom arrived via Texas-sponsored buses.

As the new arrivals swelled, New York and other cities ended up
following Abbott's lead, offering migrants free bus tickets to other
places. New York paid over 4,800 fares for immigrants to travel to
Texas, including some who had been bused from there, according to city
officials.

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antiquated-19901371.php
Scout
2024-11-11 16:58:13 UTC
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NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...

Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..

They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Klaus Schadenfreude
2024-11-11 17:14:53 UTC
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NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Don't places like Australia require a certain amount of income before
letting you into the country to apply for citizenship?
Scout
2024-11-11 17:55:04 UTC
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Post by Scout
NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Don't places like Australia require a certain amount of income before
letting you into the country to apply for citizenship?
I believe so, and I think some immigrants may even need a sponsor who
promises them employment.

pothead
2024-11-11 18:31:41 UTC
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Post by Scout
NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
Yep.
It was brilliant.
Post by Scout
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Indeed.
I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.
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186282@ud0s4.net
2024-11-12 03:18:39 UTC
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Post by Scout
NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
Yep.
It was brilliant.
It was DeSantis.
Post by pothead
Post by Scout
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Indeed.
I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.
Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
of the world - so long as they don't show up in
OUR back yard"

Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
effective.
pothead
2024-11-12 03:23:41 UTC
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Post by Scout
NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
Yep.
It was brilliant.
It was DeSantis.
Post by pothead
Post by Scout
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Indeed.
I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.
Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
of the world - so long as they don't show up in
OUR back yard"
Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
effective.
The working class has finally woken up and realized that the democrats
and the elite have been playing them for suckers for decades.

Good for them.
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2024-11-12 05:14:01 UTC
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NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
judge has ruled.
Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
legal status...
Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.
All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
should have been given a promotion and a raise..
Yep.
It was brilliant.
It was DeSantis.
Post by pothead
Post by Scout
They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..
Indeed.
I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.
Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
of the world - so long as they don't show up in
OUR back yard"
Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
effective.
The working class has finally woken up and realized that the democrats
and the elite have been playing them for suckers for decades.
Good for them.
The Dem IDEA was to flood those horrible 'red' states
with 'immigrants' - THAT'LL TEACH 'EM !

However DeSantis and Abbott figured out how to turn
that scheme on its head. NOW the blue states are
relatively hip-deep in 'immigrants' (yet, despite
their upset, it's still not as bad as it's been
for the red states). Revolt against 'immigrants'
in the blue DID help swing the election. Imagine
if it had been possible to send even MORE there !
Siri Cruise
2024-11-12 07:10:37 UTC
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  The Dem IDEA was to flood those horrible 'red' states
  with 'immigrants' - THAT'LL TEACH 'EM !
California is a red state?
  However DeSantis and Abbott figured out how to turn
  that scheme on its head. NOW the blue states are
  relatively hip-deep in 'immigrants' (yet, despite
  their upset, it's still not as bad as it's been
  for the red states). Revolt against 'immigrants'
  in the blue DID help swing the election. Imagine
  if it had been possible to send even MORE there !
<https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article287896095.html>

Some of the 49 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard by the state of
Florida are now able to legally work in the United States and have
temporary protections from deportation — because they are
considered victims of a potential crime, their attorney says. The
migrants are eligible for protections because they applied for a
special kind of visa meant for crime victims who are helping law
enforcement in the investigation of suspected criminal activity.
They applied for what are known as U visas last year after they
said they had been tricked into taking charter flights from San
Antonio, Texas to the Massachusetts island with false promises of
jobs and other aid, said Rachel Self, an attorney for the
migrants. The migrant flight program — a taxpayer-funded operation
led by Gov. Ron DeSantis and a politically connected private
contractor — was designed to remove “unauthorized aliens” from
Florida. But critics, including immigration advocacy groups, have
pointed out that the migrants had legal status in the United
States as asylum seekers and that they were found in Texas, not
Florida.

Read more at:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article287896095.html#storylink=cpy
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