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The Issue: The City Council's plan to remove art that features early American figures from city property
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2023-10-29 20:07:04 UTC
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Rather than just learn from history, the left wants to remove it.

And rather than deal with the real problems we are having now such as
crime, open borders and declining standard of living, the progressive left
focuses on actions that do nothing to make American lives better.

It’s a movement that only exists to decrease our standard of living and to
put up straw men, while real problems go unchecked.

Mindy Rader

New City

As the foremost bastion of waste and inefficiency, the City Council now
has nothing better to do than to discuss the removal of statues of early
figures in American history.

One would think that there would be serious concerns about agency budget
cuts, necessitated by the mounting expenses of services for asylum
seekers.

How about a discussion on effectively regulating child-care services or
reducing rampant crime?

Sadly, taxpaying citizens are funding this circus.

Yakov Moshe

Brooklyn

The radical left City Council now wants to put statues of Washington,
Thomas Jefferson and John Jay on the chopping block.

This is only the beginning.

They will find other ways to eliminate other historical figures from our
history books.

The Democratic Party with its toxic narrative and politically correct
nonsense will not cease its vitriol against America.

Its members are bent on besmirching our Founding Fathers.

Instead of focusing on the city’s myriad problems, they would rather
remove statues.

America corrected its mistakes, and 600,000 died defeating slavery.

The City Council lefties continue to rub the raw racial wounds of
yesterday with their feckless and divisive proposals.

Joseph Valente

Staten Island

Truth B. Told
20 September, 2023

If these progressives didn't focus on what happened and who did what 250

years ago, they would have to speak about and come up with some ideas
about

changing the cesspool we are currently living in and with, that would take

some serious introspection, and calling out todays real problems to solve.

NYER
20 September, 2023

City council sure knows how to help black people.

Don't focus on crime in low income neighborhoods

Don't focus on homelessness

Don't focus on housing

Don't focus on education

Every black name school, street, parks and projects are crime infested.
There are homelessness people sleeping in Columbus circle under that
statue.

I just hope George Floyd don't replace the one they want to take down.

Leftistsarehypocrites
20 September, 2023

You have to understand that this is part of the plan to turn this country
into a communist country. Erasing the past must be done for communism to
thrive.
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We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that
stupid people won't be offended.

Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.

No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.
Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.

Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden
fiasco, President Trump.

Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
queer liberal democrat donors.

President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions, appointed
dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.
ELON X.
2023-10-29 21:17:51 UTC
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Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison—Here's
Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT

Topline

Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton
County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential
prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
years in prison, though Trump is highly unlikely to face that much time.
Donald Trump

Former President Donald Trump prepares to deliver remarks at a Nevada
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Key Facts

Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in
Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum
four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.

Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
charge in that case, but legal experts suggest it’s unlikely he’ll face
any prison time at all in this case as a first-time offender.

PROMOTED

Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s
investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.

That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful
retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction
charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
charges carrying potentially five years each.

Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and
conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any
Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.

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Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were
convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for
conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
for conspiracy against rights.

Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41
total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer,
conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and
writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false
documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all
counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.
Contra

While all of the crimes Trump’s been indicted for do carry possible prison
sentences, most do not carry mandatory sentences if convicted and can also
potentially be punishable by a fine. Criminal solicitation and forgery in
Georgia are the only charges against Trump in which the statutes don’t
specify it can be punishable by a fine instead.
What We Don’t Know

What Trump’s actual prison sentences will be, if he’s convicted of any of
the crimes he’s been charged with. Trump is unlikely to receive maximum
prison sentences as a first-time offender, Politico notes, and even if
he’s convicted of multiple crimes, he might be ordered to serve out his
sentences concurrently, meaning he could serve sentences for multiple
counts simultaneously rather than one after the other. Trump could also be
helped out in the documents case by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the
judge overseeing the case who would sentence him if convicted, who Trump
appointed and has been deferential toward him in the past.
What To Watch For

Trump’s trial in Manhattan is scheduled to start on March 25, 2024,
followed by the documents case going to trial on May 20, 2024, though
those dates could be changed. No date has been set yet for Trump’s federal
indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, though prosecutors
have proposed a trial date of January 2. It’s also still unclear when the
Fulton County case will go to trial, and while District Attorney Fani
Willis suggested prosecutors want the trial to take place within the next
six months, that may be unlikely given the complex nature of the 19-
defendant case.
Chief Critic

Trump has strongly denied all of the charges against him in each
indictment, pleading not guilty to the first three sets of charges and
decrying the Fulton County indictment as a “witch hunt.” “These monsters,
all controlled and coordinated by the DOJ and Radical Left Lunatics, are
Criminalizing Political Speech, a total SHUTDOWN OF DEMOCRACY!” Trump
claimed on Truth Social Tuesday night. (Legal experts have disputed
Trump’s claim that his attempts to overturn the election were First
Amendment-protected speech.)
Surprising Fact

Trump being convicted and sentenced to prison would not in itself stop him
from serving as president if he were reelected in 2024—or from campaigning
for the job—though it would likely present some logistical challenges.
Legal experts cited by Politico said it’s likely any sentences from state
courts would likely be postponed until after his presidential term ends,
and while it’s less clear what would happen in the case of any federal
sentences, Trump could try to pardon himself from those charges. (It’s
still legally uncertain if he could do so.)
Key Background

Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony
charges. His indictments were brought over the past several months
following years-long investigations by federal and local prosecutors, with
special counsel Jack Smith being appointed in November to oversee the
Justice Department’s two investigations into the former president. The
charges in Fulton County were brought Monday against 19 defendants,
alleging Trump was part of a broader criminal conspiracy to subvert the
election results. Polling suggests that Trump’s indictments have only
bolstered his standing in the Republican presidential primaries among his
GOP base, though it’s still unclear how his indictments—or by that point,
any convictions—could impact the ex-president in a general election.
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